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Whats everyones opinion on dual sire or dam breedings right up front?Half brother x half sister the good,the bad,the bully!!

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WHICH ARE YOU CURIOUS ABOUT? DUAL SIRED LITTERS OR HALF BROTHER/HALF SISTER?

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Sorry half brother x half sister what are pros and cons?

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IMO OPINION ITS GOOD. I'VE SEEN ALOT OF GOOD OFFSPRINGS OFF HALF BRO AND SIS BREEDINGS. I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE REST OF THE BLOODLINE IN THE PEDIGREE.


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Thanks Larry

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HERE ARE TO OF MY FAVORITE HALF BRO AND SIS STUDS:

BIGGER IN TEXAS KENNELS (DOUBLE BRED MONSTER BABY)

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NEW TROIJANS KENNELS (DOUBLE BRED DILLENGER)

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Very nice!!!

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YEA THERE MY FAVORITE HALF BRO/SIS STUDS. ITS GOOD TO DO THE BREEDINGS DEPENDING ON WHAT THE REST OF THE PED. JYD ABOVE IS THE EXCEPTION, HE'S HEAVY MONSTER G AND DILLENGER!

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I LOVE IT, BUT WHEN YOU DO IT YOU ARE TYPICALLY TRYING TO PULL ONE TRAIT, BUT WHILE PULLING ONE TRAIT YOU GOT TO MAKE SURE YOU GOT SOMETHING IN THE PED CLOSE AND UPFRONT TO EQUAL IT OUT AND MAKE THE DOG PROPORTIONED RIGHT. WHEN DOING THOSE BREEDING YOU GET HITTERS ALOT OF THE TIME, JUST DONT GET TOO TIGHT

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DERRICK IS RIGHT. THATS WHY I SAID THAT JYD IS THE EXCEPTION. HE'S OFF OF DILLENGER AND A MONSTER G DAUGHTER BRED TO DILLENGER AND A MONSTER G DAUGHTER, MAKING IT MORE OF AN INBEEDING!

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GOOD POST

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Thanks Larry,Derrick and Topyard.

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NO PROB HOMIE, YOU TRYING TO DO A BREEDING LIKE THAT

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Thinking about it.Ill keep you all posted.

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GOOD POST

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YOUR WELCOME ANYTIME. WHAT BLOOD DO YOU PLAN ON DOING A BREEDING LIKE THAT WITH? HE MAY NOT BE A GOOD OUTCOME DEPENDING ON THE BLOOD! JUST MY OPINION!

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Thanks Fam!!I dont want to let the cat out of the bag just yet!Nothing is set in stone yet but believe me Larry youll be the first to know.Ill be seeking advice once again from the Fam!!!

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BE HEAR WAITIN

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OK WELL WHEN YOU READY TO LET THE CAT OUT, I'LL BE HERE LOL. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW MY OPINION, IS YOUR USING GREYLINE BLOOD IT WILL CLICK NICELY ESPECIALLY WITH A GOOD OUT CROSS. LINEBREEDING GREYLINE/GOTTILINE BLOOD WORKS OUT BETTER THAN LINEBREEDING RAZORS EDGE/REMY BLOOD. I BELIEVE THATS SIMPLY BECAUSE GREYLINE IS BASED ON LINEBREEDING. GREYLINE IS BASED ON LINEBREEDINGS. GOTTI (RAIDER BRED TO A RAIDER DAUGHTER), EBONY (RAIDER SON BRED TO RAIDER DAUGHTER), MONSTER G (CAMACHO BRED TO A CAMACHO DAUGHTER), AND WS MONSTER (GOTT AND EBONY = 4X RAIDER IN 3 GENERATIONS).

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What about greyline/gottiline with razors edge?

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Some lines doing half brother to half sis breedings is very potent. It all depends, sometimes by doing this you are locking traits found in the dogs dna. MonsterGline dogs tend to be at its best when line or inbred, but thats not the case with everyline. Research Peds look at the other littermates as well as parent and grandparents. If kinks are found in the 1st gen then you are most likely to inhance that problem, which is very hard to breed out of. Also another line comes to mind that tends to have severe easty westy problems that are hard to fix. From my research bad bites are the lesser of the evils and can be bred out within 2-3 years of selective breedings, but others are likely to stick around popping up time to time.
Basically its use to lock in a look and if both dogs are on point then you are locking in positive genes. But remember this breeding technique isnt used to get bigger bullys just more consistent ones.

Heres a link for you to scroll down and research.
http://www.bullmarketfrogs.com/articles/caninebreedingprograms.htm





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That is exactly my goal(consistency)Thanks for info XFACTOR!!

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Not a problem homie, I appreciate you for even asking. Most breeders think they know what they are doing and dont know shit.

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YEA GREYLINE HAS ALWAYS CLICKED WITH RAZORS EDGE. THATS THE MOST KNOWN OUTCROSS TO BE DOING. PRIME EXAMPLE: MONSTER G X RAYNA


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SEE THATS WHY IM GLAD AJ HIS ON HERE. HE'S WAS MY MENTOR AND THE FIRST ONE TO TELL ME BOUT MONSTER GLINE AND IF IT WASNT FOR HIM I WOULDNT KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT OR EVEN WHO ELSE TO REALLY TALK TO YOU. YOU NEED TO STOP LEAVING AND MAKE THIS YOUR PERMINENT HOME AGAIN HOMIE!

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LOL

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LOL much love Larry A.K.A Guru. Keep it G'd up brother.

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SAME TO YOU BIG HOMIE!

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IF i'm not mistaken Razors Edge Vee's lil Cairo(lil Ro) and Rembering Cairo(cai) which are brothers came off of a half bro bred to a half sis both off of Sadey's Paddington. Watuka Spirit X Paddington and Knuckles X Paddington.

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Thanks for the info Brad!

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TRUE BUT IM GOING BASED ON WHAT IVE SEEN IT AND MOST CLOSE BREEDINGS LIKE THAT WITH RAZORS EDGE IVE SEEN HAVING TURNED OUT WELL OR HAVE HAD FULL CONSISTENT LITTERS. I LIKE RAZORS EDGE BUT IMO IT DOESNT CLICK AS WELL WHEN DOING REAL CLOSE LINEBREEDINGS, LIKE GREYLINE DOES! JUST MY OPINION!

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YEA YOUR RIGHT LARRY, AS FAR AS INBREEDING LIKE THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO WATCH YOUR STRANDS OF RAZOR EDGE DOGS, LIKE SHORTSHOT DOES REALLY WELL INBRED AND SO DOES THE ROC/RUBY BUT OTHERS HAVE COMPLICATIONS AND ARE NOT AS CONSISTENT AS YOU THINK THEY SHOULD BE.

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YEA EXACTLY. I THINK THAT FACT THAT THE BLOOD IS SO HEAVILY LINEBRED IS WHY IT CLICKS SO WELL. FOR EXAMPLE LIKE I SAID, LOOK AT NTK JYD ABOVE. HE'S OUT OF DILLENGER AND A MONSTER G DAUGHTER BRED TO DILLENEGER AND A MONSTER G DAUGHTER MAKING IT ALMOST INBREEDING AND HE LOOKS PHENOMENAL. BUT I SAW A LINEBRED REMY BREEDING THAT IF U SAW THE DOGS YOU WOULD BE LIKE THERE NO FUCKIN WAY THAT DOG IS OFF THAT REMY BLOOD. AND LOOK AT GOTTILINE, THAT BLOOD CLICKS SO WELL BECAUSE OF THE FOUNDATION GOTTILINE BREEDING IS AN INBREEDINGS. THATS WHY BLACK ACE PUPS CLICK WELL WITH BLACK JACK PUPS OR MIKELANDS BLOOD. BUT THEY BREED TO DAMN CLOSE FOR ME, I REMEMBER SEEING ROGER (FROM WCG) DO A INBREEDING OFF OF AN BREEDING (BRED BLACK ACE TO LE BLUE HIS LITTER MATE SIS)! THATS TO DAMN TIGHT, IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL LOL!

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well ill wont be the first to say remy doesnt work that well being bred so tight, but honestly larry i would do a bellymate bro sis breeding in a heartbeat, just depends on what they are, now breeding ex blood like that works really good, but you will have some defects, such as popped eyes, but back to remy blood, i have nothing against it, its just its not as consistent as the other strands, thing,cairo,BANSHEE,shortshot/diamond,roc/ruby,dazz/jewelz,dozier/daisy,etc.... but what does make that click is thing blood, in my opinion thats what works well with the remy, so b-ran i hope your reading and getting all the info you need.

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i am thanks Fam!!

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YOUR WELCOME!

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NO PROB HOMIE

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Looks like this wont be happening Larry and Derrick.Money problems stopped me from getting my next pup!But thanks for the info again it gave me a better understanding on whats up.As they say-UNTIL NEXT TIME!!!!

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SORRY TO HEAR THAT, WELL NOW THAT YOU CANT GET THE PUP, WHO IS HE/SHE OFF OF?

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It would have been my girl Kinneman D.D. Breeze x lexus with a pup i would have got off Gunner x Lexus,think it would have clicked good Derrick!!

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O MOST DEFINETLY, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ONE TO TURN SOME HEADS MATT USUALLY DOES PRETTY GOOD DEALS, YOU MUST BE REALLLLLLY LOW ON CASH RIGHT NOW

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HELL YEA THAT WOULDVE BEEN REAL NICE! YOU SHOULDVE SAID THAT FROM THE JUMP LOL JK. BUT MAYBE NEXT TIME! THAT WOULDVE BEEN FIRE FOR SURE!

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I know i should of Larry but i had to keep the post ALIVE!!!LOL!!!

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LOL I FEEL YOU PLUS YOU GOT ALOT INFO FOR FURTHER USE.

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I did thanks fam!!!

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NO PROB

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